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What's in a Name?

Posted by Heather on January 27, 2005 at 7:20 PM

Finding just the right baby name is hard. Especially if it�s a girl, since we pretty much know what the name will be if it is a boy - or at least we have already come up with the short list. We�ll keep you in suspense for a little while longer though.

Logic would dictate that we wait until we actually know whether it is a boy or a girl before we spend a whole lotta brain power on thinking up names, half of which would be completely irrelevant once the gender of our little bundle of joy is made known (7 more weeks! Assuming he/she is not as shy as Ella was ;-))

But where's the fun in waiting?

What's so hard about it? Well I think it is a fairly big responsibility to be naming another human being. This is the name that he or she will answer to (or not answer to, which is more likely the case once he/she hits the teen years). And he or she will have to hear it, say it, write it, read it, day in and day out for the rest of his or her life. At least until he or she (damn I�ll be glad when we learn the gender of this kid) is old enough to legally change it. What a huge responsibility! (I know. you�re thinking if we think just choosing a name is a huge responsibility, are we in for a rude awakening).

Anyway � it�s a very important task.

So as with everything I do, I�ve taken a very �Program Manager�-like approach to the whole naming thing. Which should come as absolutely no shock to any of you.

Tim � he�s happy with just watching me go at this point. I think he finds my whole process amusing and slightly baffling. We�ve got 6+ months to pick a name and in all likelihood we will know the gender well in advance. So he�s being smart and waiting before getting too deeply entrenched in wading through my list of girls� names. Because like I said � if it�s a boy, the whole naming game is a moot point since we�ve already made our choice. But me � I can�t wait! That�s several weeks away at the earliest! I must have a plan! Besides � it�s one of the fun little exercises we get to indulge in as parents-to-be :-)

Well, after spending a couple of hours perusing various baby name sites on the internet, as well as the Social Security Administration �top 100 baby names� list and being completely overwhelmed by the thousands of choices I decided I needed to narrow the playing field a bit. So the first thing I did was to come up with some criteria.

Heather and Tim�s Baby Naming Criteria

The name must:

  1. be easy to pronounce and spell � especially by the average North American ;-)
  2. have a good meaning. Nothing lame or negative.
  3. have acceptable short forms/nick names. Although this one is tough to satisfy because kids can find a nickname for anything. So he/she in all likelihood is just going to have to have thick skin when it comes to his/her name at one point or another in his/her childhood or adolescent career.
  4. not be in the top 10 most popular names for 2003 or 2004
  5. not be so rare that he or she will get made fun of or feel awkward about it or resent it when he or she gets older.
  6. not be the same as any living family member (immediate or extended) so he/she is uniquely identified at family get-togethers and when she hears her/his name she/he will know the person is speaking to / about him/her.
  7. not be the same as any of our close friends or their kids for the same reason.
  8. not be a stereotypical �pop tart� or �porn� name. I.e. no �Brittany�, or �Amberlynn� or �Candie� or� (although one could argue this is the most subjective criteria and there are a number of names still on our list that could probably qualify as pop tart names... or at least cheerleader names)
  9. not have initials that when written together will spell an undesirable word (exercise for the reader - create a list of all 3-letter words ending in H. We can limit it to the english language for now)
  10. not be the same name as our pets, or our friends or family�s pets.

That last one I added most recently after Janel suggested �Lucy�. Of course, Janel was mocking me and my criteria when she suggested it. Still � it�s a good rule to add :-)

Obviously the final set of criteria is that it has to "fit" right. But we won't be able to evaluate that until the baby is actually born.

The next step then was to find a comprehensive list of names and start applying the criteria to shorten the list. After checking out several sites, I settled on babyzone.com�s Baby Names. http://www.babycenter.com/babyname It has a very extensive list of names from a variety of origins, allows you to search on a number of criteria. and provides the meaning of the name as well.

After sampling the site a bit, I quickly found I was able to eliminate a number of entire origins right off the bat as a result of applying criteria 1 and 5. The resulting �narrowed-down� list consisted of 1455 girl�s names. A little long, but it's still less than "thousands" and I like to be thorough. Heaven forbid that I miss a potential name because I narrowed the starting list too much. So that became my starting point.

Naturally, I then (ahem� slightly embarrassed sheepish grin; but this is who I am people, so I�m not gonna feel to bad ;-)) imported the 1455 names and their origins and meanings into excel for further sorting and analysis, and set about eliminating names.

As a result, I�ve come up with a �short� list of a 42 names.

And I KNOW you�re all DYING to know what the names are, and to weigh in with your opinion. So - I'll publish them here.

BUT FIRST � a bit of an explanation of this list.

The names are listed in alphabetical order. I have not given any indication as to which of these 43 are Tim and my own personal favourites :-) We will reveal our choices later. In fact, there are some that I don't like but I kept them on the list for now for completeness ;-) The column titled �2004 ranking� indicates where in the top 100 the name falls in the 2004 most popular name list (according to babyzone.com. Naturally I cross-referenced the babyzone top 100 with the SSA web site top 100 and found them to be pretty much the same (although slightly different order)).

So there you go. And if there's a name that is not on the list that you think should be, by all means let us know ;-).

    Name   2004 Ranking   Origin   Meaning  
1   Alexa   85   Greek   Form of ALEXANDER - helper and defender of mankind  
2   Alexandra   58   Greek   Form of ALEXANDER - helper and defender of mankind  
3   Alissa       Teutonic   Form of ALICE - noble  
4   Alyssa   13   Greek   Logical  
5   Amanda   79   Latin   Worthy of love  
6   Anna   30   Hebrew   Gracious  
7   Annalise       German   Gracious, Consecrated to God  
8   Annelise       German   Gracious, Consecrated to God  
9   Annika       Scandinavian   Grace  
10   Breanna       Irish   Strong  
11   Briana       Celtic   Strong  
12   Brianna   15   Celtic   Form of BRIAN - strong  
13   Cassandra       Greek   Prophetess  
14   Catherine       Greek   Pure  
15   Claire   74   Latin   Bright, clear  
16   Elaine       French   Light  
17   Elissa       Greek   Queen of Carthage  
18   Elizabeth   26   Hebrew   Consecrated to God  
19   Eve       Hebrew   Life  
20   Gabrielle   70   Hebrew   God is my strength  
21   Jessica   47   Hebrew   God sees  
22   Julianna       Latin   See JULIA & ANNE  
23   Julianne       Latin   See JULIA & ANNE  
24   Justine       Latin   Just  
25   Katherine   39   Greek   Pure, virginal  
26   Kathryn       Greek   Beloved  
27   Kira       Latin   Light  
28   Kyra       Greek   Ruler  
29   Lauren   21   Latin   Form of LAURA - laurel  
30   Madeleine       French   Form of MADELINE - woman from Magdala  
31   Madeline   14   English   Form of MAGDALENA - woman from Magdala  
32   Madelyn       Greek   High tower  
33   Natasha       Greek   Rebirth - from ANASTACIA  
34   Patricia       Latin   Of nobility  
35   Rachel   45   Hebrew   An ewe  
36   Robyn       German   Bright fame  
37   Samantha   19   unknown   Listener  
38   Sophia   11   Greek   Form of SOPHIE - wisdom  
39   Sophie   67   Greek   Wisdom  
40   Tricia       Latin   Form of PATRICIA - of nobility  
41   Victoria   50   Latin   Victory  
42   Zoe   33   Greek   Life  

Now � because I know you�re utterly fascinated by this, I thought I�d also share with you some of the names we liked that we eliminated because they were in the top 10 for 2004. Note � with the exception of the last, these were actually on our original shortlist before I started doing all the research that told me how popular they actually are:

Name   2004 Ranking   Origin   Meaning  
Abigail   10   Hebrew   My father's joy  
Emily   3   Teutonic   Industrious  
Emma   1   German   Universal  
Caitlyn       Greek   Form of CATHERINE - pure  
Kaitlyn   4   Greek   Pure  
Olivia   6   Greek   Olive Tree  

I'll spare you the remaining list. But rest assured, if you are so interested, I do have them all in spreadsheet format just in case ;-)


UPDATE
New rule - #11: Baby shall not have a name that is the same as any past boyfriends or girlfriends. Hehe. :-)


Comments

Abigail is also a King Diamond song. Best avoided. You can guess why I know this.

Wasn't Kira the girl puppet in The Dark Crystal?

Posted by gracie on January 28, 2005 12:01 AM.

I like Irish names. But most average (North) Americans probably wouldn't be able to spell/pronounce a lot of them, because they don't follow the golden rules of phonics.
Names I like, but wouldn't use because I know people or people's children with these names (boys and girls):
Etta
Moira
Garrett
Tara
Sheila
Margaret
Sebastian
Nathan

My favourite on your list: Madeleine (the French version). Although I am not fond of the abbreviations "Mads" or "Maddy".

Finally, a copy-editing note. "Rachel - an ewe" ... when a vowel has a consonant sound, you don't use "an" as the article, you use "a"; e.g., a union, a ewe, a euonym. (Words into Type, 3rd edition, p. 372). I know that was babynames.com's fault, and not yours. :-)

Posted by Sarah on January 28, 2005 7:27 AM.

Oooh! These are great names!

Sheila and Margaret are out for first names, because we have family members who already have them. But they are candidates for 2nd names. And I'll be adding the rest to the list...

"Mom - how did I get my name?"

"it came from your Aunt Sarah's list" ;-)

As for the copy editing note - hehe - thanks :-)

Posted by Heather on January 28, 2005 7:45 AM.

Hi. I read "noise to signal" regularly and followed it here. Because you said no negativity should be attached to your baby's name, I wanted to flag your potential choice of Cassandra (#13 on the list). The meaning itself may not be negative, but watch out for the associations. Cassandra, the doomed princess of Troy, offended Apollo, who cursed her with true foreknowledge that would never be believed. Then when Troy fell she was violently raped and dragged off to be the concubine of Agamemnon, with whom she was murdered in the bath by Agamemnon's vengeful wife Clytemnestra. Not a happy story. As if that weren't enough, the male form of the name, Cassander, belonged to a historical figure who is known principally for his hatred of Alexander the Great and his murder of Alexander's mother, widow, thirteen-year-old son, and possibly Alexander himself (who may have been given tainted water to bring on his final illness). So, um, Cassandra might not be your first choice for positivity.

Posted by Savannah on January 28, 2005 10:02 AM.

I'm still disappointed that Clementine's not on the list, but that's life. My favorite is Lauren, and my least favorite is Brian(n)a. Tricia reminds me too much of Nixon (specifically, his daughter). I like Madeleine, too, but the cautionary note is that with two ways to spell it, some confusion will attend the poor dear well into retirement. Victoria is an excellent choice (names beginning with 'V' get +5 charisma), but having to choose between Vickie, Vicki or Vicky as a nickname is thorny.

Posted by Uncle Vinny on March 20, 2005 4:45 PM.

Hello,

Congratulations on your pregnancy!

My parents, after having already had Four children, had come to a bit of a dead end with names, as the other four children either had very good Catholic names, or Irish names (Mother is Irish). Then I came along. They had no idea.

They eventually took two names they liked, stuck a hyphen between them, and made up Laura-Ann. I know there's about one other person in Britain with the name. Unfortunately it's so easy for people to shorten it to "Laura". I hate that intensely, and have been known to get very angry about it, and I always say that if my name was "Laura" or "Laura-Anne", then it would say so on my Birth Certificate, and it doesn't, so they should at least make the effort to get it right.

I've always like "Chloe" myself, but then we got a dog called Chloe ;)

Posted by Laura-Ann on March 21, 2005 6:22 AM.

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